Teen Gothic

Im looking for gothic songs that are in French, i have yet to find any that I really love. All help would be appreciated <3

hi everyone! i hope this is allowed.

im a baby bat in the uk searching TIRELESSLY for a pair of gothic, comfy black trainers/sneakers. i have my doc martins, and i am struggling to find reasonably priced shoes. do any of you have recommendations? brands? exact shoes? as i said, i’m in the uk so uk brands (not paying £100 shipping) would be best. thanks so much everyone!

p.s – do not say new rocks. ever.

(The band's legacy on culture will not be touched upon as its importance is obvious)

I was listening to The Birthday Party and I realized something that is not particularly important and that is that I don't really get the "gothic" sound within their music as it is sometimes presented. It is definitely dark, scary and romantic but I don't think it reaches the level of being considered "Gothic Rock" as it is closer to Noise Rock, No Wave and Punk Blues. Maybe instead of "Gothic Rock" I think it is more appropriate to see it as a Deathrock album due to the punk still being present in most of the songs and its almost non-existent ethereal atmosphere. This is my personal opinion but I would like to know what you think about it and how you would present it.

I was reading an interview with Peter Murphy from 2018 here and he had a different story about the first use of Gothic (Or actually Gothick in this case) than what Ian Astbury has said, which I thought might interest this sub.

In the interview he quotes the name of the old article, "Gothick as a brick", stating that it was the first time the term gothic was applied to music. I thought the name of the article sounded familiar, and found it in my copy of the book "bauhaus: beneath the mask". Here it is, from NME, apparently written soon after "In the Flat Field" was released in 1980. The article does seem to indicate at the very least that the genre didn't have a name at that point. It's amusing what a tasteless snob the interviewer was.

Edit: fixed the link

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Lol I'm just wondering if it's just me. I live in a warm country but winter is my passion (literally) I feel so good when it's winter outside and I like to sit at night with the air conditioner on and listen to bands like London after Midnight, Twin Tribes and Horror Vacui and they just give me that feeling lol Does this happen to you too?

I also listen to metal, mainly thrash and melodeath for those who know and I really like metal but it doesn't give me the same feeling except maybe a couple bands. I think it's the atmosphere that gives this vibe.

Coming onto here for recs for gothic music that (as the title describes) has an ethereal vibe but is also aggressive and grimey at the same time

I’d appreciate anything yall got, older and newer music

To better describe what I mean (just to add a bit of help),

Basically music that sounds like evil ghosts chasing you or goth music that straight up captures the feel of a nightmare. Stuff that carries an ethereal atmosphere but other pieces, mainly including the vocals, are aggressive and unhinged.

Thats basically what I mean